1. Hot spot point of light, curve. (DITRH misunderstanding Sunglint and Sunglitter and thinking this is evidence of a local sun on a flat earth ...LOL).
Balloon 127,000 feet
What is sun, don't ask me, we don't know
Bend, pinpoint of light.
"What is the sun? Don't ask me we don't know"
Sunglint is a phenomenon that occurs when sunlight reflects off the surface of a water body —like the ocean— at the same angle as an observer is viewing the surface. In the affected area, relatively smooth ocean water becomes a silvery mirror.
In the flat-Earth model, the Sun is assumed to be a ‘local light source.’ They like to use a spotlight or a flashlight as an analogy. They present the sunglint phenomenon as ‘evidence’ of the fact that sunlight is local. They are wrong.
A similar phenomenon to sunglint also happens to any object with a smooth surface, like a billiard ball.
Sunglint happens only on a water body. Landmass does not cause sunglint. The reason is that a smooth surface tends to reflect light to the same angle. It is like the difference between a paint job with a gloss finish and one with a matte finish.
Sunglint is a well-explained phenomenon. It is not evidence of local sunlight.
If the sun is local Dave, why is the Snow on Mountaintops? Shouldn't it be hotter up there?
Balloon 127,000 feet
What is sun, don't ask me, we don't know
Bend, pinpoint of light.
"What is the sun? Don't ask me we don't know"
Sunglint is a phenomenon that occurs when sunlight reflects off the surface of a water body —like the ocean— at the same angle as an observer is viewing the surface. In the affected area, relatively smooth ocean water becomes a silvery mirror.
In the flat-Earth model, the Sun is assumed to be a ‘local light source.’ They like to use a spotlight or a flashlight as an analogy. They present the sunglint phenomenon as ‘evidence’ of the fact that sunlight is local. They are wrong.
A similar phenomenon to sunglint also happens to any object with a smooth surface, like a billiard ball.
Sunglint happens only on a water body. Landmass does not cause sunglint. The reason is that a smooth surface tends to reflect light to the same angle. It is like the difference between a paint job with a gloss finish and one with a matte finish.
Sunglint is a well-explained phenomenon. It is not evidence of local sunlight.
If the sun is local Dave, why is the Snow on Mountaintops? Shouldn't it be hotter up there?
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Dave Demonstration
School hallway - see a "nice line" and compare what we see in the water looks the same.
Experiment curve and it gives us a pinpoint of ..
Sun Glitter
If the observer is close enough to the surface, and sunlight is coming from an angle almost parallel to the surface —like during a sunset— sun-glitter will occur.
Sun glitter is mostly a lot of sunglints caused by the ripple of the water. The surface of the water is no longer smooth relative to the size of the projected Sun on the surface. The same thing would happen if we look at a smooth mirror under a microscope: the mirror will not look as smooth.
(left) This one took on a sharply convexly curved overpass. Clear columning is observed along the convexly curved surface.
(right) Here we observe it with sunlight all the way over the very clearly convexly curved wave!
School hallway - see a "nice line" and compare what we see in the water looks the same.
Experiment curve and it gives us a pinpoint of ..
Sun Glitter
If the observer is close enough to the surface, and sunlight is coming from an angle almost parallel to the surface —like during a sunset— sun-glitter will occur.
Sun glitter is mostly a lot of sunglints caused by the ripple of the water. The surface of the water is no longer smooth relative to the size of the projected Sun on the surface. The same thing would happen if we look at a smooth mirror under a microscope: the mirror will not look as smooth.
(left) This one took on a sharply convexly curved overpass. Clear columning is observed along the convexly curved surface.
(right) Here we observe it with sunlight all the way over the very clearly convexly curved wave!
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And here is a diagram showing why.
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And we don't see the full column when the water isn't rippled enough.
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2. False flat earth model. Claiming we don't understand his model the way HE thinks it should be.
No true Scotsman Fallacy. If you don't believe what I do than you are not a flat earther.
No true Scotsman Fallacy. If you don't believe what I do than you are not a flat earther.
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3. Can't have high pressure next to low pressure without a physical barrier.
Your on a ball, a scientifcally impossible ball... a rock, surrounding by water and air adjacent to a void, of no pressure, that breaks the laws of thermodynamics... You cannot have high pressure next to low pressure without a physical barrier [Wrong]
Not zero, there is pressure.
There is no high pressure next to low pressure - strawman.
There is a gradient!!
Where is the physical barrier Dave?
a) No does not break the law of thermodynamics
2nd law of thermodynamics states the entropy of the universe never decreases. High pressure gases migrate to lower pressurized gas only if no forces are acting. Gravity is a force.
b) Not understanding Atmospheric Pressure vs Gas Pressure
Atmospheric pressure is the pressure exerted on a surface by the weight of the atmosphere (a compressible fluid) above it and is usually measured using mercury barometer. The pressure of a gas is the force that the gas exerts on the walls of its container.
c) It is a gradient, not air adjacent a void. Even space has pressure even though very little and even the moon gets some molecules from the earth's atmosphere.
Examples of gas without a container
1) Sulfur Hexfluoride 2) Magnetic Plasma Containment 3) Butane pipes
Examples of high pressure next to low pressure
1) Airplane wings, 2) Hurricanes 3) Get a barometer app and see upper stories lower pressure than lower stories (video of balloon recording pressure gradient).
Your on a ball, a scientifcally impossible ball... a rock, surrounding by water and air adjacent to a void, of no pressure, that breaks the laws of thermodynamics... You cannot have high pressure next to low pressure without a physical barrier [Wrong]
Not zero, there is pressure.
There is no high pressure next to low pressure - strawman.
There is a gradient!!
Where is the physical barrier Dave?
a) No does not break the law of thermodynamics
2nd law of thermodynamics states the entropy of the universe never decreases. High pressure gases migrate to lower pressurized gas only if no forces are acting. Gravity is a force.
b) Not understanding Atmospheric Pressure vs Gas Pressure
Atmospheric pressure is the pressure exerted on a surface by the weight of the atmosphere (a compressible fluid) above it and is usually measured using mercury barometer. The pressure of a gas is the force that the gas exerts on the walls of its container.
c) It is a gradient, not air adjacent a void. Even space has pressure even though very little and even the moon gets some molecules from the earth's atmosphere.
Examples of gas without a container
1) Sulfur Hexfluoride 2) Magnetic Plasma Containment 3) Butane pipes
Examples of high pressure next to low pressure
1) Airplane wings, 2) Hurricanes 3) Get a barometer app and see upper stories lower pressure than lower stories (video of balloon recording pressure gradient).
Gas without a container
Sulfur hexafluoride (SF₆) has a density of 6.12 g/L at sea level, considerably higher than the density of air (exactly 5 times more dense). It's therefore allowing experiments like this one, where soap bubble are apparently 'suspended' over a tank.
Sulfur hexafluoride (SF₆) has a density of 6.12 g/L at sea level, considerably higher than the density of air (exactly 5 times more dense). It's therefore allowing experiments like this one, where soap bubble are apparently 'suspended' over a tank.
There is a bias all right, it is the same bias that holds the gas in this open pipe. It is the same bias that holds our atmosphere in place and produces the atmospheric pressure gradient. It is called gravity!
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Magnetic confinement fusion is an approach to generate thermonuclear fusion power that uses magnetic fields to confine fusion fuel in the form of a plasma. Magnetic confinement is one of two major branches of fusion energy research, along with inertial confinement fusion.
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4. Take a Picture of Stars today and exact same time next year.
He claims every single star will be in the same position - FALSE!!
The move slow, but they DO MOVE!
Two examples of stars moving
1) Precession of the poles - Thuban was north star in ancient egypt
2) Proper motion -
3) Nutation - back and forth motion causes precession of poles to be wavy
NOTE: aberration and Parallax can be see as the earth orbits the sun and stars change during the year as FURTHER evidence that the Earth IS ORBITING THE SUN (Not Stationary).
Almanacs (for example) show Polaris moving over past couple centuries so NO not in the same position. Moving via proper motion, precession and nutation
Most keep in mind our local cluster of stars are moving together so stars all seem to remain stationary even though the DO move, just very slowly!!
He claims every single star will be in the same position - FALSE!!
The move slow, but they DO MOVE!
Two examples of stars moving
1) Precession of the poles - Thuban was north star in ancient egypt
2) Proper motion -
3) Nutation - back and forth motion causes precession of poles to be wavy
NOTE: aberration and Parallax can be see as the earth orbits the sun and stars change during the year as FURTHER evidence that the Earth IS ORBITING THE SUN (Not Stationary).
Almanacs (for example) show Polaris moving over past couple centuries so NO not in the same position. Moving via proper motion, precession and nutation
Most keep in mind our local cluster of stars are moving together so stars all seem to remain stationary even though the DO move, just very slowly!!
Nautical Almanacs, which are made for the sole purpose of celestial navigation at sea, have been recording the positions of the Sun, Moon, Stars, and Planets each year since the 18th century. The data is readily available and they show the small shift over the past two centuries!
5. Helical Nonsense - spinning at 1000 mph
66,000 mph, 480,000, etc Personal incredulity , Lack of physics basics
Cannot feel speed, you only feel acceleration. Flat earthers do not understand that all inertial reference frames are indistinguishable from being at rest (because no forces acting)
Speed is a relative thing and small relative to speed of light. Speed of light is 671 million mph.
So these speeds are SLOW relative to light.
4 different directions
1) That Vortexing Model is WILDLY inaccurate!! (add animation)
Both the earth DOES rotate and orbit, so there is a force
And we CAN calculate these miniscule forces which are dominated by the Centrifugal term of rotational motion.
Even at the equator where the centrifugal force is GREATEST, it is ONLY approximately .03 m/s^2
The force of gravity is almost exactly 9.8 m/s^2.
Here gravity is the Centripetal Force pointing towards the center of the earth.
The Centrifugal Noninerital force is .03 m/s^2 pointing AWAY from the center of the earth.
The RESULTANT FORCE VECTOR is 9.77 m/s^2 INWARD in the direction of gravity.
So NOT ONLY is .03 m/s^2 at the very limits of our ability to perceive force (based on one study), it is OVERWHELMINGLY dominated by the force of Gravity.
As always Flat Earthers cannot draw a free body diagram and calculate the resultant force
Look at this bullet train going 300 km/hr or 170 miles per hour. There is next to zero force because the train is moving constant speed. You cannot feel speed or velocity, you only FEEL ACCELERATION (like if this train speeded up or stopped suddenly)!
66,000 mph, 480,000, etc Personal incredulity , Lack of physics basics
Cannot feel speed, you only feel acceleration. Flat earthers do not understand that all inertial reference frames are indistinguishable from being at rest (because no forces acting)
Speed is a relative thing and small relative to speed of light. Speed of light is 671 million mph.
So these speeds are SLOW relative to light.
4 different directions
1) That Vortexing Model is WILDLY inaccurate!! (add animation)
Both the earth DOES rotate and orbit, so there is a force
And we CAN calculate these miniscule forces which are dominated by the Centrifugal term of rotational motion.
Even at the equator where the centrifugal force is GREATEST, it is ONLY approximately .03 m/s^2
The force of gravity is almost exactly 9.8 m/s^2.
Here gravity is the Centripetal Force pointing towards the center of the earth.
The Centrifugal Noninerital force is .03 m/s^2 pointing AWAY from the center of the earth.
The RESULTANT FORCE VECTOR is 9.77 m/s^2 INWARD in the direction of gravity.
So NOT ONLY is .03 m/s^2 at the very limits of our ability to perceive force (based on one study), it is OVERWHELMINGLY dominated by the force of Gravity.
As always Flat Earthers cannot draw a free body diagram and calculate the resultant force
Look at this bullet train going 300 km/hr or 170 miles per hour. There is next to zero force because the train is moving constant speed. You cannot feel speed or velocity, you only FEEL ACCELERATION (like if this train speeded up or stopped suddenly)!
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Shows hypersonic Sled Track - 8.6 times the speed of sound (6600 mph)
10 times that around the sun (66,600 Numerology again).
Example of speeding up to 70 mph, at some point we'll be going 66.6 mph (Earth speeds up and slows down in its orbit).
Misleading because many forces are at play.
1) Acceleration
2) Air resistance
3) Bumpy motion
How about using ISS (17,000 mph), Concord jet or bullet train with much smoother constant velocity. Plus we are in free fall around the sun, so no forces. Centrifugal Force = Gravitational Force (only tidal forces are at play!).
Because orbiting objects are in free fall around the common barycenter, this forces can not be measured in principle on the bodies itself.
Then he claims the earth is chasing the sun at 500,000 mph NO! Draw your free body diagram ... Local forces far outweight forces from distant galactic center. Our solar system is almost going in a perfectly straight line because the orbit is so huge!
So because of this our solar system is very close to a perfect Inertial Reference Frame.
10 times that around the sun (66,600 Numerology again).
Example of speeding up to 70 mph, at some point we'll be going 66.6 mph (Earth speeds up and slows down in its orbit).
Misleading because many forces are at play.
1) Acceleration
2) Air resistance
3) Bumpy motion
How about using ISS (17,000 mph), Concord jet or bullet train with much smoother constant velocity. Plus we are in free fall around the sun, so no forces. Centrifugal Force = Gravitational Force (only tidal forces are at play!).
Because orbiting objects are in free fall around the common barycenter, this forces can not be measured in principle on the bodies itself.
Then he claims the earth is chasing the sun at 500,000 mph NO! Draw your free body diagram ... Local forces far outweight forces from distant galactic center. Our solar system is almost going in a perfectly straight line because the orbit is so huge!
So because of this our solar system is very close to a perfect Inertial Reference Frame.
6. Shows a picture of a still lake and tells us out god given senses tell us this is stationary!
ITS BECAUSE WE DO NOT FEEL VELOCITY WE FEEL FORCE
Flat earthers DONT get this. I have heard Dave say on a plane its harder to walk to the back then front.
NO , not if cruising altitude at constant speed. Forces only felt at takeoff and descent.
Our Bodies are NOT measuring devices and not even measuring devices can sense constant velocity.
Try to invent one, you'll win a nobel prize!!
ITS BECAUSE WE DO NOT FEEL VELOCITY WE FEEL FORCE
Flat earthers DONT get this. I have heard Dave say on a plane its harder to walk to the back then front.
NO , not if cruising altitude at constant speed. Forces only felt at takeoff and descent.
Our Bodies are NOT measuring devices and not even measuring devices can sense constant velocity.
Try to invent one, you'll win a nobel prize!!
7. Captain Hook Nonsense
They tell us that Antarctica is a continent at the bottom of the earth
Every explorer that has tried to sale around Antartica, last one Captain Cook took him 3-1/2 years and he clocked 68,000 miles.
How could that be Dave Says?
Simple, Captain Hook's route was a LONG one, not just around Antarctica.
Probably closer to 60,000 miles.
They tell us that Antarctica is a continent at the bottom of the earth
Every explorer that has tried to sale around Antartica, last one Captain Cook took him 3-1/2 years and he clocked 68,000 miles.
How could that be Dave Says?
Simple, Captain Hook's route was a LONG one, not just around Antarctica.
Probably closer to 60,000 miles.
And WRONG - VERY recently Antarctica has been circumnavigated this has been done. Here are two examples
1. Antarctica Cup Yacht Race.
There is literally a boat race around Antarctica. It’s called the Antarctica Cup Yacht Race. A woman, Lisa Blair, recently set the record for doing the track solo, below 45 degrees, and with only one stop (her boat was dismasted.) The course is only 14,000 nautical miles around, and not the 21,639 you would expect if the Earth was flat. Lisa did it in under 184 days.
1. Antarctica Cup Yacht Race.
There is literally a boat race around Antarctica. It’s called the Antarctica Cup Yacht Race. A woman, Lisa Blair, recently set the record for doing the track solo, below 45 degrees, and with only one stop (her boat was dismasted.) The course is only 14,000 nautical miles around, and not the 21,639 you would expect if the Earth was flat. Lisa did it in under 184 days.
2. Oyster 72 Katharsis II -
On 20 March 2018, we completed our circumnavigation round Antarctica. It had taken us a total of 72 days and 6 hours. We made the entire circumnavigation south of the latitude of 62°S, including 25 days of sailing south from the Antarctic Circle. We were filled with a sense of satisfaction and relief. We could begin sailing back towards safer – that is, ice-free – waters.
On 20 March 2018, we completed our circumnavigation round Antarctica. It had taken us a total of 72 days and 6 hours. We made the entire circumnavigation south of the latitude of 62°S, including 25 days of sailing south from the Antarctic Circle. We were filled with a sense of satisfaction and relief. We could begin sailing back towards safer – that is, ice-free – waters.
Admiral Byrd nonsense.. land bigger than U.S.
7. No real photos Antartica
Apollo 17 Caught Antarctica
LIMA Detailed Composite from REAL Satellite images.
LIMA was created from nearly 1100 individual Landsat-7 images of Antarctica, most collected between 1999 and 2003. A single Landsat image records the reflected brightness of a 185km x 185 km area of the earth’s surface in six spectral bands (30-meter spatial resolution), two thermal bands (60-meter resolution) and a panchromatic band (15-meter resolution).
7. No real photos Antartica
Apollo 17 Caught Antarctica
LIMA Detailed Composite from REAL Satellite images.
LIMA was created from nearly 1100 individual Landsat-7 images of Antarctica, most collected between 1999 and 2003. A single Landsat image records the reflected brightness of a 185km x 185 km area of the earth’s surface in six spectral bands (30-meter spatial resolution), two thermal bands (60-meter resolution) and a panchromatic band (15-meter resolution).
8. Antarctica highest plateau.
We are like a pond?
What is the highest land on Earth?
Shoreline of our world pond.
Center is North Pole.
False NOT highest Plateau! Tibetan Plateau is!
China at an average elevation of 4000 m above sea level and is known as "the roof of the world." Covering more than 2.5 million km(2), the Qinghai-Tibetan plateau is the highest and largest plateau in the world.
We are like a pond?
What is the highest land on Earth?
Shoreline of our world pond.
Center is North Pole.
False NOT highest Plateau! Tibetan Plateau is!
China at an average elevation of 4000 m above sea level and is known as "the roof of the world." Covering more than 2.5 million km(2), the Qinghai-Tibetan plateau is the highest and largest plateau in the world.
9.Can't go past 60 degrees? PATENTLY FALSE!!
People Go to the North Pole ALL THE TIME
People Go to the North Pole ALL THE TIME
10. Claims the tours take us to some continent land mass - Evidence???
11. No-one allowed to explore outer space - There are no lands beyond the ice wall, that is PURE FICTION
12. Ice walls not around flat earth - They are Ice Shelves and NOT totally surrounding Antarctica, only in certain places.
11. No-one allowed to explore outer space - There are no lands beyond the ice wall, that is PURE FICTION
12. Ice walls not around flat earth - They are Ice Shelves and NOT totally surrounding Antarctica, only in certain places.
Antarctica Treaty
Like everything else they claim, those only exist in their imagination. The real world Antarctic Treaty prohibits things like:
Like everything else they claim, those only exist in their imagination. The real world Antarctic Treaty prohibits things like:
- Claiming land as private property.
- Doing mining operation.
- Any nuclear-related operation.
- Using it to dispose of waste.
13. Gleason map most used map until 1959. Used for navigation? Pilots use??
Not most common map until 1959
Not what Pilots Use for Navigation!
Dave: They take the flat map and wrap it around a sphere.
NO THIS IS AN AZIMUTHAL EQUIDISTANT PROJECTION MAP FROM THE GLOBE! IT SAYS SO RIGHT IN THE PATENT!!
Not most common map until 1959
Not what Pilots Use for Navigation!
Dave: They take the flat map and wrap it around a sphere.
NO THIS IS AN AZIMUTHAL EQUIDISTANT PROJECTION MAP FROM THE GLOBE! IT SAYS SO RIGHT IN THE PATENT!!
14. Southern airports - Crazy Routes???
But there are direct flights DITRH
Should not go above equator...
But there are nonstop Southern Hemisphere Flights
1) Sydney to Santiago
2) Sydney to Johannasburg
Southern Flights Prove the Earth is Flat??? WRONG!
But there are direct flights DITRH
Should not go above equator...
But there are nonstop Southern Hemisphere Flights
1) Sydney to Santiago
2) Sydney to Johannasburg
Southern Flights Prove the Earth is Flat??? WRONG!
15. How does the sun set
Perspective grid???
If the sun is going away it would get smaller.
Atmospheric Deck??? Opaque.
Dave is just making stuff up again.
This is NOT how perspective works!!!
Perspective grid???
If the sun is going away it would get smaller.
Atmospheric Deck??? Opaque.
Dave is just making stuff up again.
This is NOT how perspective works!!!
But that was using a mountain, but what about sunsets on the beach??
I lived on Siesta Key for 7 years and saw hundreds of hard sunsets where it sets below the water. It does not fade, or fall below an atmospheric deck, it sets hard below the horizon. This cannot happen on a flat earth! Sunsets ALONE DEBUNK flat earth!
The sun would never set on a flat earth. Simple Trigonometry proves this point beyond a shadow of a doubt!
NO AMOUNT OF ZOOMING BRINGS THE SUN BACK!
All this time, both refraction and perspective are abused by flat-Earthers as technobabble. Two sophisticated scientific-sounding terms along with the related “demonstration” are being used to dazzle the unsuspecting crowd. In reality, both cannot explain the everyday phenomenon of sunrise and sunset in the flat-Earth model. Not even close.
I lived on Siesta Key for 7 years and saw hundreds of hard sunsets where it sets below the water. It does not fade, or fall below an atmospheric deck, it sets hard below the horizon. This cannot happen on a flat earth! Sunsets ALONE DEBUNK flat earth!
The sun would never set on a flat earth. Simple Trigonometry proves this point beyond a shadow of a doubt!
NO AMOUNT OF ZOOMING BRINGS THE SUN BACK!
All this time, both refraction and perspective are abused by flat-Earthers as technobabble. Two sophisticated scientific-sounding terms along with the related “demonstration” are being used to dazzle the unsuspecting crowd. In reality, both cannot explain the everyday phenomenon of sunrise and sunset in the flat-Earth model. Not even close.
16. Physical curvature - 3 miles - physical horizon.
3 miles 6 foot drop.
Should not see anything beyond 3 miles...
Accept Dave there is a thing called Refraction
Shot from a Mountain Top
World Record Proof of Flat Earth Earth scientifically provably flat.
700 Miles Away - Clouds not mountains.
Taboo Conspiracy (and Dave Weiss Favorite) DEBUNKED!!
*10 Reasons this claim is ridiculously FALSE!* .
source video here: https://youtu.be/bCtolwBdPQk?si=P9HEWqkqy5znVD67
How can Flat Earthers Believe this Nonsense???
1) He mentions at the start, to demonstrate how these are the Alps and aren't clouds. But this just never happens, he puts some lines and circles on the screen and just never addresses how he has confirmed this. Obviously it's nonsense. He CLEARLY misidentified multiple clouds as mountains
2) Flat Earthers that want to accept this will now have to stand behind the claim that we can see 700 miles through the atmosphere.
3 miles 6 foot drop.
Should not see anything beyond 3 miles...
Accept Dave there is a thing called Refraction
Shot from a Mountain Top
World Record Proof of Flat Earth Earth scientifically provably flat.
700 Miles Away - Clouds not mountains.
Taboo Conspiracy (and Dave Weiss Favorite) DEBUNKED!!
*10 Reasons this claim is ridiculously FALSE!* .
source video here: https://youtu.be/bCtolwBdPQk?si=P9HEWqkqy5znVD67
How can Flat Earthers Believe this Nonsense???
1) He mentions at the start, to demonstrate how these are the Alps and aren't clouds. But this just never happens, he puts some lines and circles on the screen and just never addresses how he has confirmed this. Obviously it's nonsense. He CLEARLY misidentified multiple clouds as mountains
2) Flat Earthers that want to accept this will now have to stand behind the claim that we can see 700 miles through the atmosphere.
3) The furthest object ever photographed was Pic Gaspard in the French Alps, from Pic de Finestrelles in the Spanish Pyrenees—a distance of 443 kilometers. 275 miles. So I guess Guiness did not get the memo??
4) The mountain he photographed wasn't Mont Blanc. Because the picture that Taboo Conspiracy shows in his video is showing the south face of mount blanc and from the mountain the guy was the direction to mt blanc would mean you would see the NNW face. The photographer himself denies that they were mountains. Clouds confirmed!!
5) I love how the Youtube proving Flat Earth keeps making use of Google Earth. Why not use the Gleason map?
6) Full video had more clouds that were taken out. Why did he edit out clouds? 3 of the 8 peaks on the left side are missing in the comparison and 11 peaks overall. The photographer himself also confirmed those were not the alps being seen. You are seeing mountains about 25 miles away and some clouds.
7) Taboo used an off center shot that was several degrees off from the actual direction of the mountains.
8 ) He completely forgets about all the other land in between those peaks that would be visible if you really were looking that far and if the earth really was flat.
9) Angular size shows from that distance you wouldn't be able to see the peaks.
10) The real kicker though is there is a mountain about 85 miles away that is 2900 ft tall that you can't even see in the picture showing that we aren't seeing anywhere near 700 miles.
4) The mountain he photographed wasn't Mont Blanc. Because the picture that Taboo Conspiracy shows in his video is showing the south face of mount blanc and from the mountain the guy was the direction to mt blanc would mean you would see the NNW face. The photographer himself denies that they were mountains. Clouds confirmed!!
5) I love how the Youtube proving Flat Earth keeps making use of Google Earth. Why not use the Gleason map?
6) Full video had more clouds that were taken out. Why did he edit out clouds? 3 of the 8 peaks on the left side are missing in the comparison and 11 peaks overall. The photographer himself also confirmed those were not the alps being seen. You are seeing mountains about 25 miles away and some clouds.
7) Taboo used an off center shot that was several degrees off from the actual direction of the mountains.
8 ) He completely forgets about all the other land in between those peaks that would be visible if you really were looking that far and if the earth really was flat.
9) Angular size shows from that distance you wouldn't be able to see the peaks.
10) The real kicker though is there is a mountain about 85 miles away that is 2900 ft tall that you can't even see in the picture showing that we aren't seeing anywhere near 700 miles.
Says We Cannot Go below 60 Degrees South? What ??
This is Speculation!!
Dave says Biggest Telescopes all pointed South (I guess to look at the mythical lands beyond the ice wall? - Regardless it is NOT TRUE!
South African Large Telescope (SALT) is THE largest telescope in the Southern Hemisphere and can and does move in a circle. Definitely not always pointing South!
19. Iron Republic - 1800s opening in Antarctica - advanced civilization. Oh my this is where the flat earth fairy tale really gets ridiculous. These are ALL fictional books!!! Dave thinks the maps in these books are good indication for what lies beyond the wall, but ADMITS this is conjecture, pure speculation? So why believe pure speculation with zero evidence?
**Fictional Books**
This is Speculation!!
Dave says Biggest Telescopes all pointed South (I guess to look at the mythical lands beyond the ice wall? - Regardless it is NOT TRUE!
South African Large Telescope (SALT) is THE largest telescope in the Southern Hemisphere and can and does move in a circle. Definitely not always pointing South!
19. Iron Republic - 1800s opening in Antarctica - advanced civilization. Oh my this is where the flat earth fairy tale really gets ridiculous. These are ALL fictional books!!! Dave thinks the maps in these books are good indication for what lies beyond the wall, but ADMITS this is conjecture, pure speculation? So why believe pure speculation with zero evidence?
**Fictional Books**
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Kobayashi Map
The lost world is a genre of fiction involving the discovery of an unknown world, popular in the late 1800s and early 1900s when the remnants of lost civilizations were being discovered by westerners. However, newspapers of the era often published such works in a way it might not be obvious that these are just works of fiction.
In 1907, the Hawaiian Gazette published one of such works titled “Was This World Map Made Ten Centuries Ago,” illustrated with the so-called Kobayashi map, for a more powerful story. Flat-Earthers fail to realize it was a work of fiction that was common in the era. The tale & the Kobayashi map spread in flat-Earth communities as a hoax.
Publishing a work of fiction written as a journalistic piece —as the Hawaiian Gazette did with the Kobayashi article— was apparently acceptable and somewhat common in the era. Several articles in other publications were written similarly.
In 1909, the Arizona Gazette published an article about a Tibetan-style underground civilization found in the Grand Canyon.
In 1912, The New York American alleged that a deathbed confession had spurred Paul Schliemann, grandson of Heinrich Schliemann —the discoverer of Troy & Mycenae— to uncover the lost Atlantis.
In 1885, the St. Louis, Mo. Evening Chronicle claimed the discovery of a lost city beneath Moberly, Mo.
The lost world is a genre of fiction involving the discovery of an unknown world, popular in the late 1800s and early 1900s when the remnants of lost civilizations were being discovered by westerners. However, newspapers of the era often published such works in a way it might not be obvious that these are just works of fiction.
In 1907, the Hawaiian Gazette published one of such works titled “Was This World Map Made Ten Centuries Ago,” illustrated with the so-called Kobayashi map, for a more powerful story. Flat-Earthers fail to realize it was a work of fiction that was common in the era. The tale & the Kobayashi map spread in flat-Earth communities as a hoax.
Publishing a work of fiction written as a journalistic piece —as the Hawaiian Gazette did with the Kobayashi article— was apparently acceptable and somewhat common in the era. Several articles in other publications were written similarly.
In 1909, the Arizona Gazette published an article about a Tibetan-style underground civilization found in the Grand Canyon.
In 1912, The New York American alleged that a deathbed confession had spurred Paul Schliemann, grandson of Heinrich Schliemann —the discoverer of Troy & Mycenae— to uncover the lost Atlantis.
In 1885, the St. Louis, Mo. Evening Chronicle claimed the discovery of a lost city beneath Moberly, Mo.
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Not allowed to Go Beyond 60 Degrees South?
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Admiral Byrd Nonsense
Flat earthers love to overimagine things and because of their lack of knowledge, Byrd’s statement is interpreted that there are lands beyond this ice wall and ‘the powers’ are hiding these lands from us. ‘The powers’ are secretly exploiting these lands for their own purpose and are guarding every inch of them
Land Bigger Than US... It was
In their imagination, Antarctica is not a continent, but a long ice wall enclosing the Earth. Without having anything to prove that assumption, they look anywhere for any quote they can mine and stumbled into this quote by Admiral Byrd:
“Strangely enough, there is left in the world today, an area as big as the United States, that’s never been seen by a human being. And that’s beyond the pole, on the other side of the south pole from Little America.”
Flat earthers love to overimagine things and because of their lack of knowledge, Byrd’s statement is interpreted that there are lands beyond this ice wall and ‘the powers’ are hiding these lands from us. ‘The powers’ are secretly exploiting these lands for their own purpose and are guarding every inch of them
Land Bigger Than US... It was
In their imagination, Antarctica is not a continent, but a long ice wall enclosing the Earth. Without having anything to prove that assumption, they look anywhere for any quote they can mine and stumbled into this quote by Admiral Byrd:
“Strangely enough, there is left in the world today, an area as big as the United States, that’s never been seen by a human being. And that’s beyond the pole, on the other side of the south pole from Little America.”
Dave Ridicules the Indian Moon Landing saying They showed us a cartoon.
This was a visualizer , never meant to be the actual lander!
If you watch the livestream this was CLEARLY the case! Below Left is a real picture of the actual lander taken from the Pragyan Rover!! India DID land on the moon and
This was a visualizer , never meant to be the actual lander!
If you watch the livestream this was CLEARLY the case! Below Left is a real picture of the actual lander taken from the Pragyan Rover!! India DID land on the moon and
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Summary of Evidence The Chandrayaan Landing is Real (I did two videos on this)
1. ISRO has no track record of deception, in fact they just launched another probe to study the sun.
2. 10,000 People Watched and witness the Chandrayaan 3 launch
3. Detailed Videos on approaching moon and landing
4. Confirmation of Vikram from Chanderyaan 2 matches footage from landing video
5. Real Images of Rover, moon surface and of Vikram from Rover with no proof whatsoever fake
6. Many tests performed with extreme details and some unexpected results.
7. Signals can be received by anyone with the equipment and knowledge to do so at frequencies stated
8. Doppler Data can be recorded and compared to JPL horizons or other sources to confirm Vikram on the moon
Same Velocity as the Moon, Means the Vikram is ON THE MOON!!
9. No flat earther has shown ONE SHRED of Evidence the Landing was fake.
1. ISRO has no track record of deception, in fact they just launched another probe to study the sun.
2. 10,000 People Watched and witness the Chandrayaan 3 launch
3. Detailed Videos on approaching moon and landing
4. Confirmation of Vikram from Chanderyaan 2 matches footage from landing video
5. Real Images of Rover, moon surface and of Vikram from Rover with no proof whatsoever fake
6. Many tests performed with extreme details and some unexpected results.
7. Signals can be received by anyone with the equipment and knowledge to do so at frequencies stated
8. Doppler Data can be recorded and compared to JPL horizons or other sources to confirm Vikram on the moon
Same Velocity as the Moon, Means the Vikram is ON THE MOON!!
9. No flat earther has shown ONE SHRED of Evidence the Landing was fake.
These Photos Are ALL from Apollo 11, so of course the clouds will look the same they were all taken on the same day.
Apollo 9 never even went to the moon!!
Apollo 9 never even went to the moon!!
**STOP - Working on the last part of Class #1**
Couple more points yet to address below to finish notes for first video.
ISS is NOT something in the sky... Brighter than airplane, can still see it.
20. Every civilization before us taught flat non-rotating earth?
21 Overpopulation -
22. Gravitational model scientifically probably incorrect?
23. NASA - moon
Provable never sent anyone to space???
24. ISS not something in space.
Can't see it? Why not?
25. Boats 1000 miles inland...
26. DITRH making up history ... Lost History Nonsense
Mudflood
Im the improbably dreamer. Lost history.
27. Radius of the earth and distance to Sun... Venus... Calculus 93 million miles away.
No we have bounced radar off the Sun.
DAVE is SO CONFUSED...LOL
Stars cannot be seen
Inverse square law, light gets dimmer and dimmer as you go further away exponentially. But we CAN see all the same stars.
Couple more points yet to address below to finish notes for first video.
ISS is NOT something in the sky... Brighter than airplane, can still see it.
20. Every civilization before us taught flat non-rotating earth?
21 Overpopulation -
22. Gravitational model scientifically probably incorrect?
23. NASA - moon
Provable never sent anyone to space???
24. ISS not something in space.
Can't see it? Why not?
25. Boats 1000 miles inland...
26. DITRH making up history ... Lost History Nonsense
Mudflood
Im the improbably dreamer. Lost history.
27. Radius of the earth and distance to Sun... Venus... Calculus 93 million miles away.
No we have bounced radar off the Sun.
DAVE is SO CONFUSED...LOL
Stars cannot be seen
Inverse square law, light gets dimmer and dimmer as you go further away exponentially. But we CAN see all the same stars.
5. Google Earth Pilot Video - exact same position (motion relative)
Taboo Conspiracy video
Time lapse from
4 hours earth rotated 60 degrees. Flight simulator
Rise up and rotate.... Exactly what you would expect to
Happen in 60 degrees.
Did not take into account the rotation of the earth in those four hours.
Bob the science guy.
Slip ups
I know the ball is scientifically possible... Yes well, yes it is.
How Deceptive Flat Earth is
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Curvature
Eratostenes
Ships over horizon
Transcontinal surveying
High altitude rockets
***MAGE and Curvature***
Fisheye Lens - 360 camera is use
Non fisheye lens.
Reference strings to show not fisheye
There is not a SINGLE video of a non-fisheye lens that shows
The earth to be flat. Minimal distortion.
Horizontal eye zone - DITRH made up!!
Horizon....lol. Bounding Circle.
Can't see in between???
***Boat came into focus all at once***
3 ships === Good for a short
https://youtu.be/DSMRhTPMSfk?si=68U7ouqC2AzkMCet
That is not how waves work...
You can see half the table... Half lens being blocked by table.
***PHOTO*** 46:00
All laser experiments are pointless because of refraction.
None of bases in Antartica are military
SCience bases
1000 mph = four motions but don't do the math and calculate the forces involved. We we don't feel motion, we feel a change in motion.
You cannot measure rotation in miles per hour, it is just wrong to say that.
Do the math for the forces involved.
And you feel acceleration.
9.79-.03 = 9.76 down
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Salt flats -- Can't see the end of the road because of the curvature of earth.
3 miles - does not take into account the observer
The only way you can see things further if you go higher is if the earth is a globe.
Camera from rover... 3rd attempt to get that shot.
They do not know how to do an experiment properly and account for all variables.
Light bending around which is why we can see it.
Humidity
Time and Date.com
The Lapse Rate is the rate at which temperature changes with height in the Atmosphere.
Mage 2
Hula Hoop looks curved
Horizontal Eye Zone
You should be able to keep seeing
You can see as far as the light can travel.
Laser and laser light... you cannot see the laser but you can see
The laser light.
Magic Sky Daddy.